Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-216.67.118.209-20160331011253/@comment-30255782-20181212070131

So I just calculated it, and baby gao has 3990 dps to everything but white, at 7.53s cooldown, vs jizos 2083 dps to everything but angel and black, and 4.20s cooldown... At these stats, Gao stacking is actually better than jizo stacking, the Gao stack gains an average of 530 dps every second, while the jizo stack gains only 496, although jizo does of course win against white, black and angel... Jizo has 10 more range, and a 0.5s shorter attack animation, but gao has 9.5k more hp to everything but white, 2 more kbs, and a 55¥ cheaper cost per second (if both are bring deployed as much as possible)... So I'd say there is a very solid argument to be made for gao being the superior midranger...

I consider mitama a support unit, though she definitely helps in general, so sure that's a freebie (#1 Uber is still #1)... Alright, so you believe that gao is a worse generalist than li'l valk and Armageddon, well, let's see.. Li'l valk has 2k more dps to traited, and 6k more to white, plus she has a little over 1/3rd of gaos cooldown, but gao has 2 more kbs, 30k more hp to white, 80k more hp to traited, 125 more range, and has backswing so he doesn't kill himself whenever the enemies get kbed.. She has zkill and status immune, whereas he just has the 5% crit, which actually isn't bad, since it boosts his dps against traited to an average of 9.9k (would be 9.3k without the crit), and kills most metal enemies in 1 shot with his high damage attacks, but I'll still give her a slight advantage in the special abilities section, since zkill is great, and immunity to debuffs has decent niche use... I don't want my generalist Uber suiciding all the time, and I really like that 125 extra range, so I still prefer gao.. Armageddon has 500 more dps than gao against traited (this is including the crit's dps buff), but ofc can't touch whites, and Armageddon does have 4 more kbs, but gao has 75k more hp to traited, 25k more hp to white, 20 more range, 3.2s shorter attack animation (this is a huge advantage), and a 30s shorter cooldown... In special abilities, Armageddon has zkill and not damaging whites, while gao has crit and wave immune, so gao this time has much better special abilities... Again, the challenger has more dps (except against white ofc), but that attack animation will make him miss a lot more. Plus, that 20 extra range is nice, and gao has slightly better survivablity, so he's still on top...

Your next point is just explaining why midrangers are useful.. That's nice.. No lol jizo isn't any good on f30 in the way you're describing to use him, he could be used with octo for a peon wave, but in that situation, gao/slapstick would do at least as good as jizo (the midranger will only get 1-2 hits in, and can't stack before dying).. Also, you're starting to sound like a telemarketer, trying to give me a solution to a problem that I didn't know existed...

By the way, all these stats are level 30, since I don't boost my Ubers, that's what Spica has set as the automatic, and those levels are more easily attainable...

Well, since jizo and gao are pretty close as midrangers, and gao's 2nd form is the best generalist (except mitama ofc), whereas jizo's 2nd form isn't near the best generalist Uber... Can we agree that gao is better overall? Or do you have an argument for why gao isn't the best generalist/baby gao isn't even close to 1st form jizo?

Final note, you said that D'Artanyan and shadow gao are better than regular gao, if you were serious, please back up your claims, if you don't actually believe that, just don't respond and I'll assume that you agree with me on this...