Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-216.67.118.209-20160331011253/@comment-30255782-20191007200848

You don't need to argue the wiki being almighty, if you say it's good at anything besides stage info then I'll be willing to disagree. I debunked my own statement, how? There are definitely better sources than the wiki (mygama and Spica are excellent), however for the Tierlist, it's pretty darn reliable. Why wouldn't anyone think an uber is good unless they're high A or above, average is B or C+, that's not exactly a secret. Ice is a tad above average, and paladin is bad, if someone needs the niche then they'll upgrade them because they can read the unit description, otherwise, the Tierlist says if they'll be good overall so they know if it has any other use.

Like you said in the literal previous paragraph "theres no point in what the average person does if it leads to misleading information." So, he may be finding out with his own experience, but if he finds out wrong info, or is unable to figure out something's use correctly, it's pointless. Anyway, it's not like someone who uses the tierlist can't use their own experience as well, they're not mutually exclusive. Again with the fact strawman, if anyone believes the Tierlist to be absolute fact then they're mega dumb, but it's very good, plenty enough for it to be used like it actually is, which isn't as an absolutely correct document lol.

A minor difference is enough to have a minor affect, k. Do you actually think people are too dense to be able to tell that they don't need units that are similar to the ones they have as much as they need ones that are used in different situations? If so, then you'd definitely be overestimating the average person earlier.. Practical does indeed not necessarily equal accurate, practical is more important tho, since it's *practical.* Please apply this argument to the niche you created of anti all cc units to show how they're unique.

I have seen someone say I want chronos, in fact I just went onto the r/bc discord server and found 4 quotes saying just that. Sorry if you think this is a problem somehow, but your perception is off, she's discussed quite often lol. Btw if you don't believe me and want the quotes, just search I want chronos on disc, or message me and I'll send you images. Chronos isn't as high as A+ Tier, she's near the top of B+, arguably (and imo) low A. I just checked for Bala being compared to chronos, I could only find 2 messages total, one was a joke and the other was talking about stacking units on gs specifically. Even if they were compared tho, people can compare whoever they want, and I doubt a single argument that had good players ended with bala>chronos unironically.

So it's easy as long as you can read, and you can't really provide evidence for that kinda thing. K.. First off, discord/reddit/amino have search tools, so you can look up whatever and actually find evidence without much trouble. I just looked up what people on the same discord server think about Bala, and I found people saying that he should be B tier and that he's the 3rd best luga, doesn't look like there's much any treating the Tierlist like fact or thinking Bala succs. You can check this yourself if you want.

So, most ubers have average or below average dps, and you need several different ubers who all have above average dps with no major downsides to cover every enemy type, or Gao will still have plenty of use. It's almost like he's as good as several average ubers in one, and not utterly replaced later on, much less by midgame. I'd use him for his extra range because he has amazing dps with that range, unlike Gaia at 400, which is pretty pathetic for a backliner generalist dps. Quick reminder that you completely forgot about gao's first form yet again here, it seems like you're unable to address that point, hmmm.

Good thing Gao has over 9800 dps and isn't a nuker then lol, he's a generalist, so all of his stats are excellent, not purely dps. Btw, for a unit with comfortably over 450 range, 9.8k isn't exactly bad, even if he was a nuker. Arma has other problems, but we already went over this a while ago iirc, maybe you're just forgetful about that one.

Yea, which community in the bc community tho? Reddit, disc, yt, some specific part? If it's so rampant everywhere, you should have at least some specific example right? There are indeed stages where you can protect Gao and not Gaia, even if I ignore the 70 range difference like you said, there's still waves and anything that can push hard since she only has 60k hp and 2kbs with a 350 width blindspot, if a bore/bun/rost or something gets inside there and you don't have excellent support, she's pretty done for, and they only have to advance 50 space from her standing range. Gao isn't outright replacable unless you're at the point where you have every uber in the game, and even then his midranger form will still be helpful. Having over 3x the dps would be enough to be better, except everything else is worse, and she only has 400 range. Idk why you'd think that the 400 range is an upside, it's pretty bad for her.

Idk what you're saying there, what's the difference between a below and an above average uber being talked about besides whether or not they're above average? Indeed, having a niche doesn't equal having a good niche, vars has a good niche, keiji has a pretty good niche, kama and Raiden both have solid niches, wow it seems like although generalists don't necessarily have good niches, quite a few do. Now then, is it more feasible to obtain one unit that has 9k dps to every trait, or one unit for each trait that does way more dps to that trait but is bad otherwise? Ofc the one unit is more feasible, you aren't gonna have every niche, and Gao can supplement any gaps very well, be an op midranger, and is an excellent 450 outranger/wave immune (especially survivability wise) even when you have other options.

You don't communicate with the bc community outside of wiki enough, based on your misconceptions.

Baby Gao is insanely good.