Talk:Oda Nobunaga (Uber Rare Cat)/@comment-35353971-20180826025608

Honestly as a person who lacks Oda and should have no say in the conversation, I’m gonna give my say

How bad really IS Oda?

Oda is disliked primarily for his 1 kb and the fact that blacks can get knocked back easily. The one knockback is a big problem, I must admit. But about the KB count of Blacks, with Oda’s TF, even when they are knocked back out of his range they are frozen again sooner. Plus, nobody ever relies on JUST ubers, so a little bit of meatshielding will solve it.

A major argument against Oda is that Bomber is better. Bomber is stackable and free. Yes Bomber is stackable, but in my opinion that’s also a point against him. You need more than one to permafreeze, making a good 5-6 second time when enemies like Razorback can still cut forward slightly. Oda, however, only needs one to permafreeze and at the point that he lands his first shot all your problems go away.

Now, also, Oda has more range. And by more range, I don’t mean Ururun - Valkyrie. He actually has significantly more range, and this is helpful. It makes his one-KB situation slightly less bad, AND it means he can outrange Le’noir which is important because Le’noir easily destroys stacks. He is also safer than Bomber against things like Bun Bun Black.

And don’t forget, unlike Bomber, Oda actually has noticeable attack.

So is Oda really as bad as all make him out to be? Probably. I’m most likely just wrong or looking at it the wrong way, but based off general logic Oda sounds much better to me.