Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24839283-20190603021049/@comment-30255782-20190616224400

410 vs 425 isn't super significant, but with range clipping, Le'Noir, and enemy advance it is certainly an advantage. sure 10k hp isn't a huge amount, but Masa does still have better survivabilty due to it and like I said, he's not the top of B. Additionally, masa isn't known for his survivabilty.

Ofc coppper isn't better than masa, I assumed we were arguing about how big the difference between them is. Half of his recharge doesn't nearly make up for 1k less dps and way longer animation. Even if it did, masa still has the survivability advantage (it isn't massive but it exists), range, much shorter tba, and fidget spinners.

Her survivability is pretty close to masa, but that isn't exactly an impressive feat. Her niche isn't great with it being non-guarenteed cc without a very short tba, I would agree it has more use than kb against red and black tho, but that niche does have its uses. The dps she may get off in game definitely isn't similar to masa, I have no idea how you could reach that conclusion.