Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-216.67.118.209-20160331011253/@comment-33760559-20181207020502

LemonCakeDude wrote: sanzo is actually very good lol, idk what kind of experiences you've had with him muppet, but he's the 4th or 5th best rare cat, destroys bunbuns and cyclones early-midgame, then lil buns, brollows if you want, and other stuff lategame...

Jizo is much more replaceable than mitama... for floatings you have camera, dart, and baby gao, for reds you have cancan, momo 1st form, baby gao, dart, and some less viable options, for black you have pizza, baby gao, and dart, for angels you have momo, saru,  baby gao, and dart, though jizo is the best for these last 2 categories there are still replacements, for relics you have slapstick, baby gao, and dart, for white as well as an alternative general midranger option you have paris, dragons, MML, and the GOAT midranger SV-001, for aliens you have baby gao, dart, chill, macho legs, and seafarer, and for zombies you have saru, hijiri, lil flying, and archer... Only two of these are even arguably superior to jizo in general use(baby gao and dart), but I use camera over jizo for floatings, cancan or momo for reds, and slapstick for relics.. Jizo is definitely worthy of the title 3rd best uber in the game, and is probably the best midranger... For mitama, you have things like sanzo for floating, gunslinger for relics (8.1 talent), witch/icat for reds, psycho/seafarer for aliens, juliet for angels, bomber for black, kaguya/poisedon/puppet for metals, and she can't hit whites, but cyberpunk/asi/Dmitama can... But, none of these remove mitama's use in that niche, like camera and slapstick do for jizo. Icat/bomber are too shortranged in some situations, if the backline is something other than hackey/tackey.. her 75% semi-permaslow is much better than any other anti angel, alien, zombie, metal, or relic unless they are stacked, and she has that LD, is useful on stages with every type of enemy, and has the best survabiltity in the game (shishi is kinda close, then babel and gammy beat her in their niche)... If somehow you haven't gotten it, she has above average dps for an uber (4.2k), wave immune, 150k hp to traited, huge LD, and 100% backswing... Chronos is pretty good, but is basically just a downgraded version of her with more standing range.. I would prefer if we could switch the topic to something that makes sense - Gao vs. Jizo, and will avoid continuing to debate this with any of you unless I hear something astronomically idiotic that I have to respond to...

Now then, Gao is better than Jizo, change my mind. 2nd for gao vs jizo, not even a chance. jizo outclasses by far considering gao is only an average or maybe slight above average generalist

first form gao vs jizo is an actual debate. he has higher stats all around, but isnt as spammable, and doesnt have as much range.

gao mainly outclasses jizo hp and damagewise against floating, reds, aliens, and

jizo outclasses against traitless, and HEAVILY outclasses against blacks, and angels.

they both are about the same against zombies, relics and metal

considering jizo can be spammed more i would give him the edge, also yes zombies and relics are traited. zombies need a zombie killer to properly be dealt with,(though he can be used as a ranged meatshield a lot better because of recharge) and relics have curse. jizo also outranges more relic enemies than gao(even if its only by one)

if i would give a rating out of 10, saying for instance if kasa jizo was a 10, gao would come in at an 8

the main reasons are

1. spammability, he is a lot more spammable, gao has a better survivability though so that gives kasa jizo only a slight edge in this matter mainly because he can actually tank some hits from lower damage dealing enemies. this also allows kasa jizo to be a viable ranged meatshield against zombies that like to burrow.

2.lower cost(yes 150 difference isnt much but thats still makes a difference in certain stages where you are tight for cash)

3. that 10 extra range. almost nothing except for the fact that there are few enemies with 310 - 320 range. so hardly and edge

and 4, considering how heavily he has an edge against black and angels which is a lot difference than gao's slight edge against reds aliens and floating.

5. movement speed. kasa jizo is much faster. so he can get to the frontlines quickly