Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24839283-20190603021049/@comment-39705341-20191003091145

Black Sun x wrote: Nice unpopular opeenjik tem:

- Kuu is worse than Coppermine and Twinstars: Let's begin with, comparing "the C+ and the C uber". Firstly, they both have the exact same standing range (410), extremely similar DPS (Kuu:5,222 ; Coppermine:5,342). However, here's the rest of the thing. Kuu has better health (73,100 > 45,050), higher KB amount (5 > 3), her niche is a small bit more relevant (Good against Hannya, Capies, and Berserkories I guess, horrible vs blacks ; Copper is still useful vs ranged floatings such as Maawth and I.M Phace, or in Othom stages such as Inspirational Mural since she stands a lot of range away from Othom omni whenever there be frontline). However, here's the gamer thing: Kuu's HP/KB advantage don't really matter, because of Kuu having the longest CD out of all the Galaxy Gals, even longer than Jeanne's and literally twice Copper's (Kuu: 3,946 CD ; Jeanne: 3,506 CD ; Coppermine: 1,946 CD), and her insane TBA, speed "advantage", and relatively short backswing will make her move forward any time there is a gap on enemy lines and can lead her to backliner hitbox and less safe range in case enemies begin to push back. Coppermine survives as much because of her attack delay being mostly fore and backswing, her speed being lower but not low enough to be considered the big bad, so she won't yeet to them Kurosawah hitboxes as easily when there's a gap between the frontline. Whenever your Coppermine dies, her CD would have charged up to allow you to spawn down another Coppermine, making the "lower survivability" part less painful. Also stac Coppermines for sweet DPS like an epic gamer in little time. Kuu deals more damage, but has 15s TBA. Copper deals less, but 6s TBA (Hence DPS similarity), and both have a relatively similar foreswing length (Copper: 100f ; Kuu: 60f). So a Kuu miss will lead to pain, while Copper missing is as "bad" as Rekon missing cause she'll attack not long after missing her attack. Range, though being the same, it's good for Coppermine, and gay for Kuu. You don't see 5K+ DPS units with below 2000f CD have that amount of range anyday, while you can see how there are many units with Kuu-ish stats and CD have 410 or more range. Kuu has talents, but they're not really worth the NP compared to others such as Pizza and Rodeo, and hey Copper has potential for talents too so let's wait for it. Since Coppermine has way better CD, similar survibality, better stackable DPS, and her drawbacks (Foreswing, HP, niche relevance) are tiny enough to be covered down by other of her stats, compared to Kuu's inmense drawbacks (TBA, longest CD out of all gals), I'd say Coppermine is way better. Though to begin with the only argument there is against Coppermine is bEcAUsE hEr fReEZe iSn'T 100% made by like a few rarts out there, and even then 75% is good for her insane uptime

Now comparing Kuu and Twinstars out, not really a solid comparison since both have a entirely different niche. Twinstars are basically a discount Kalisa. Both share the role of being rushers, nearly same CD, health, and DPS (Twinstars: 1,846f CD, 37,400 HP, 7,080 DPS ; Kalisa: 1,946f CD, 43,180 HP, 8,443 DPS), multihit being the biggest difference, and a drawback(?) for Twinstars. Twinstars also have better speed to their side (32 > 27). Multihit is sort of a drawback for general use, but at times is not much of a drawback. It means nearly nothing vs tankier foes, and it can work to use black enemies' high knockback count (And some Alien enemies such as LeMurr) to their advantage, keeping themselves safe from them (Specially considering the gap per hit is big enough to not lead to "The Gilgamesh Syndrome"). What makes them better than Kuu, though, is that not only they are sorta fair generalists, but they have much higher niche value. They're very good against the more common blacks, acceptable generalists, and overall good rushers. Their capabilities to rush give them usage in stage where most common general ubers are countered, such as Primitive Souls. And not to mention, missing a hit on them has way less negative impact than Coppermine missing hits.

- Dioramos is not bad: Firstly, Dioramos outclasses Gao obviously. (Although Gao is fucking overrated garbage so who cares lmao). Secondly, he's God (Note there are cool n good arguments in the links so checdashidout).

- Babel is better than Legeluga: Lemme make the cool n good comparison and involve in Sodom cause I want to lmao: - Sodom is a tank that has One Horn speed, less than half the HP of Babel, lower DPS than Babel, and less effectiveness on his niche due to Ins Res > Res. All of this while having a price difference of only 300$ and 800 frames less CD - Babel has 8 speed, almost 3 times Sodom's speed (And exactly the same speed than Eraser Cat), may seem gay but this is faster than your standard units (Bahamut, Ururun), meaning he won't get left behind as a snail and let the big damage bois die. An acceptable 7,083 DPS with 85,000 damage for self-defense, and 1,785,000 HP against reds and floatings. Although he doesn't has anti-relic talents, he has enough HP so that by the moment reds or floatings kill him you have another Babel ready to be deployed to stall them for another millenium and keep your Bahamuts and Ururuns safe and sound from the Bruhllow hordes. Also he can give you a hand by not getting permafrozen by Henry. Can be considered sort of a Dioramos that has ins. res to give epicer use to dat HP and speedo. - Gayluga serves a different niche so cannot compare well, just to say from now. Firstly, Legayluga shares only 200f less CD than Sodom, which is gay for a suicide bomber, secondly, a pitiful 20 speed for his role, and although is standing range seems good, he cannot get to most of the big LD bois' blindspots. Omni with no piercing range only makes him more gay on Zombie stages as he'll kill the Zang Roos before your talented Cataur lands the finishing blow on them and make them not revive. His short af foreswing is his only advantage but that can lead to make him hit a Squire Rel and remain in the perfect spot for Tackey to slap him with a non-regulation ball due to backswing and lead to wasted 12K DPS. 4500 cost means unable to be spawned early and for early cheese Abaha does 300% better. To conclude my epic comparison and submit my stando, Babel is actually good in his Narrow af niche and has slight general potential cause cool kid damage, unlike Legelan who has the potential of being outclassed by Abaha and Bullet Train 100% of the time. So Babel > Legoluga

- Big mad fat rad N-Word Pass Pigge Rat is not hard to kill without the help of Isis: We all have heard the story about Bore wandering through a random desert and getting patted by a spy who gave him a N-Word pass to become a harder, better, faster, stronger rat, strong enough to slap those cat units, but then the cats contacted the most racist people of Isis to destroy them with explosives, and them some dude appeared rebelling against Isis cause getting a bias towards big black rat for reasons unknown but ended up getting ignored by @everyone and people saying U gae retar Razarbar is imposbl n0 Iseecks. However i'm siding on his side of the spectrum on shit here because Ugandan Knuckles is a conspiracy made by Bombercat and the game was better before he came. Yeah to begin with, Razerbar has 1.15M HP, 20K damage, and 46K DPS (Winged Pigge has more DPS and noone complains lmao), not 3M HP and 999K damage. Erasr can tank a Razerbook hit with a high enough Lvl (Strenghten tho). Also, not to mention, we have the 4 horse clocks of the anakinbahmoopocalipse by our side: Rodeo Cat, Thaumaturge Cat, Pizza Cat, and Vaulter to delet all peons that want to interfere with the big single targt CC bois' job. They do require some RNG, but you can stack shid, or can't you? More stac = More consistency = More dab on everything. Not to mention, 2 ultimate weapons, ones that not even Isis can outpower, exist, the first one being Pizza Cat's epic gamer talents, dabbing on them Tackeys and slowing the dumb SBK gingers as an addition aside from slapping Black Rats, and one that is so powerful BCEN cannot be gathered, The Mighty Chibigau (Chibigau's a mini Dragon Emperor fite me). With the union of the 4 gamers you'll be able to kil them blac bors before you see their strengthen. You can do Tast of Suc no Bombr too, as a matter of fact, but 150% Reserbrr big gae and requires mad procs without Pizza talents. BackRazor can be killed no anti-blecs too but it requires some boost but it's ok because no racism.

- Floor 30 is a mistake.

- Gayzed Asse's freeze is also a mistake

- Cyberpunk is overrated. Cyberstack clears a lod o shid but it's fogin tedious and takes 10 years, making other options better. And then there's the sync risk.

Guess that's all the shid for now. I'm sorta serious about them, though I may not sound like cause of my usual nature. I have more of them but also a lot of laziness. It's amazing that people are so dedicated to this wiki they bother to write stuff this long