Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-216.67.118.209-20160331011253/@comment-33626998-20171218040015

Red anvil wrote: Uwuwo wrote: Red anvil wrote: I have Jizo, but i like both Kaguya and Sarukani much more... he is the worst out of the ultra souls that I have and... um... maybe my 6° favourite uber out of all 13?; so NO, he is NOT the best uber, not even close.

You just gotta be joking. Jizo is basically a paris cat on steroids, but those cats listed are only good for their enemy type. Sarukani is basically a worse jizo but for zonbies and kaguya is only good for her ability.

I'll agree that Jizo isnt the best cat in the game (that depends on the situation), but he's definitely up there. Saying he's not even close is just blasphemy i was not joking. it is obviously subjective, in my setup i have tons of anti-blacks (6 ubers) and anti angels (6 ubers) as well as some anti-everyone (except metal and without zombie killer usually), but without kaguya, my only anti metal or critter uber, i would suck at dealing with metals (kind of), and Sarukani helped me a lot in the past with the zombies and was my salvation for Daboo and Zyclone, also i know that he will make zombie levels considerably easy in the future, the problem with jizo, while i am not blind and know how OP he is, is that he makes blacks and angels much easier, but many other can be the n. 2 at that and do the job anyway, my opinion is that an uber to be top tier needs to be at least "unique" in its way, like the anti white Shadow Gao and Gothic Mitama, or the long ranged Aphrodite, or, maybe, the super strong Baby Gao and Shishalan (not sure about these 2), but not jizo, he may not be far down at all, but the gap whith the bests is massive. I don't really think that kaguya and sarukani have better stats if it is what you understood, i simply like them more because thay are actually almost essential for me, just like i would like  Date Masamume more than many othrs if i were to get him as my first anti red non-rare cat apart from cat machine and crazed whale. Late reply, but I respect your opinion, and the best cat for any of us depends on your cat loadout in the first place. BUT, none of the ubers that you listed have true strength above jizo. Shadow gao and Gothic mitama, while being unparalleled in their individual areas of usefulness, can't function for any other enemy type, while normal gao and Mitama can take out almost all opponents except for the ones that shadow gao and gothic mitama specialize at. That creates a "niche" for what levels they're useful in. Shadow gao is really only useful for the crazed cats and some bosses (like H. nah or the lorax) but outside of that niche he does next to nothing. aphrodite, while having incredible range and great power, has the long range weakness, and while not exactly a true weakness since it increases her range even further, it provides a blind spot that makes her next to useless if it gets breached.Shishalan pasalan is really the one with the least weaknesses here that you mentioned, but his only real weakness is that he needs to be hurt first in order to become godlike. what makes jizo one of the best is that he can do nearly anything without any real hasle or trouble. Because frankly, jizo is spammable enough and strong enough to function as a much stronger cameraman cat or paris cat with slightly less range. Almost any level he's useful in because he functions as a paris cat with less cost, which makes him more cost-effecient, and much stronger. The massive damage is the icing on the cake, making many late game stages a complete cakewalk since they are populated with black and angel enemies. the only thing jizo isn't too good at is enemies like sunfish jones because of their massive range, but even then he's still good for taking him out because he has massive damage against him.

however, with all of those things listed, Jizo is good at everything, but excels at none, and that's why he's so good. A lot of the strongest cats in the game have one glaring weaknes, and jizo has none of those. most ubers as a result of this weakness work in certain situations, while jizo works in nearly all. His only weakness is super long ranged units and metal enemies, which is shared by nearly all units so it isn't too glaring.