Talk:Dark Souls (Insane)/@comment-35012596-20180730085339/@comment-35012596-20180730105524

20+5 works, just make sure the stack isn't too weak, or too strong, when I tried, my pile ended up getting too close and too near, I had to fire cat cannon and another ms sign died so that was extra 7.5 mins.

but the pile must become very thin (1) when there are 9 ms signs, they must also be close to the base to prevent the eraser knocking back the ms signs before the 1 peon comes. It's harder than it sounds, but totally worth it when you show others your low user rank and crazed cat.