Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-216.67.118.209-20160331011253/@comment-30255782-20191011023949

The recharge really isn't a big deal, it makes it so Gao takes less deploy limit and the stack doesn't make itself miss as much. The longer time to come back isn't a problem with his significantly better survivability. Also, he can gain more advantage from recharge combos since he's still at midranger cooldown and he doesn't hit minimum cooldown as quickly. I haven't calculated it, but I figure he's at or about at minimum cooldown with himeyuri + vigler. he still gets a solid reduction with just biobone anyway.

Why don't you wanna use either for zombies? All they're missing is zkill, I'd definitely use baby gao on daboo or as dps on about any zombie stage besides like zammele if he isn't leveled enough to reach him. Same for Jizo, but he has less survivability which is important due to burrowing, so Gao has a definite advantage here.

So,

Jizo for black, angel, white, and usually relic

Gao for red, floating, alien (+starred), and zomb

Without considering niche value, I'd say Gao has the advantage since aliens are so widespread and jizo's relic advantage isn't as big as any other advantage.

There are midrangers that counter both sides, Jizo has to contend with pizza, Juliet, slapstick, and some obvious cc stuff. Gao has to contend with camera, seafarer, cancan, kinda vaulter, and then some cc units as well.

Hmm, with relics being close and the stages usually having multiple traits (to gaos advantage), and Jizo not doing great for a lot of whites anyway (range is the main issue, same with some angels). Even with your arguments, it's pretty darn close on which one has more niche value.

It seems that you can agree that they're close to equally good midrangers, even if you can't concede on Gao being equal or better to Jizo. So, in order to prove that Gao isn't better than Jizo, you'll have to show that mkd isn't any better than castle than Jizo is better than baby. Castle is solid yes, but that'll be tough.

If you're gonna boost stuff to 50, then I'd say mitama vs Gao or Jizo becomes an actual argument, if you're also gonna narrow in on lategame (which you have to for lv40+ ubers anyway), then it's in their advantage. I'd still give it to her if we're talking for the whole game. Mitama definitely carries the hardest until lategame, and then she's still dominating on stuff like gs and anything inside her niche. I admit, it is hard to give a direct comparison between her and Gao, and even harder if you compare the midranger forms.