Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-216.67.118.209-20160331011253/@comment-33760559-20191025021921

LemonCakeDude wrote: For kasa:

I'm talking about any part of the game where you'll encounter blacks and have possible access to bomber and Jizo. Jizo ofc had the advantage before itf3 because you can't get bomber. I'm considering everything after that point, I'm not exactly a fan of just looking at endgame and lv50s, seeing how that's not particularly helpful overall.

You don't use bomber now, but did you use him when you were trying to beat megablitz for the first time? When you wanted to beat the stage quickly and didn't have ultramaxed ubers. Quite a lot of people do the same thing as me and don't get ubers to 40 or above because they make the game boring. If you agree that bomber is at least better for something (razor), then what blacks are Jizo better for. If Jizo isn't better for anything and bomber is, then bomber is ofc better.

"you only need bomber if blacks are too much for you to stall normally." I think you just gave the definition of what blacks do, even with Jizo if he's not overleveled. Jizo is definitely amazing dps for them, but bombers cc is very necessary for those situations where they still push. And he carries just as much as Jizo in those less-push situations. You say bomber is unnecessary with your Jizo, I say vice-versa works even better.

I agree with the 3rd Para, if the stage isn't mostly angels and the midranger forms work there, Jizo is better than ushi.

If the black is just support or a lesser part of a stage, then I do concede that Jizo tends to be better. Bomber is better for pure blacks, and Jizo gets closer and closer, then surpasses as blacks become a lesser part of a stage. I'd rather have Jizo in something like sea breeze salon/gestalt. Although that may be because all of sea breeze is jizos niche and gestalt is the stage where you need midrangers, a lot.

Oh well, but understandable.

I do have something tho, seeing how you're a big fan of Stat units. How do you think momoco stacks up against any of the A tier ubers or doktor/ushi? The A tiers are Tkalisa, Momo, catman, 01, and chronos (imo 02 and maybe baby as well). Well i dont really have enough knowledge on how kasa jizo did since mine is no longer at level 30 or 40,I can say this though, at level around level 30-40 is where he became strong enough to the point where i didnt need bomber

First time i beat megablit+z was before bomber was introduced to the game, megablitz was an easy stage for me before bomber cat was added. And im not gonna use him just for the heck of it. only when needed like against razorback. The black enemies kasa jizo is better for I would say would be any of them other than razor back, and arguably kurosawah depending on how buffed it is, a heavily buffed one to the point where a few kasa jizos cant knock him back and interrupt his attack animation then yeah bomber is better for that.

They usually dont still push though, a few meatshields and kasa jizos do the trick for me. the only time ive actually seen where they can push through kasa jizo would be, once again, razorback. bomber cat is good for blacks but he certainly isnt kasa jizo.

Bomber being better for pure blacks is arguable at level 30 stats. especially considering the only pure black stages that would push so hard that level 30 kasa jizo couldnt stop them, not counting razor backs is merciless XP, are probably some of the very late levels, but at that point a level 40 kasa jizo is easy to obtain, and he handles them, anything at UL is fair game for 50.

in my opinion momoco is kind of a weird unit.I would probably put her above doktor simiply because she has more use, but doktor is better at her niche imo than momoco is at hers, but momoco i would say is better all around. Catman being above momoco would be a safe bet for me. Chronos is hard for me since i didnt get chronos until i was already very late game, pretty recently. chronos is good when paired with great attackers, but as a unit themself then probably catman beats her. To simplify it, chronos is better when you have other good damaging ubers, but catman is better if you dont. Or thats just the way i see it. I cant see why kalisa is thought to be better than catman though. but hey theres someone willing to go against it. 01 is solid, 02 is very good. Baby was kinda wasted, even his talents didnt help him that much, what he really needed was to resist floating imo. not saying he's bad but he isnt as good as I hoped for.