Talk:Detective Vigler (Uber Rare Cat)/@comment-33601749-20180725032923/@comment-32973614-20180726205015

The point of waves is to hit far, if you attack while staying further back and your wave is shorter, there is a pretty big difference.

I mean... Manic Legs can be stacked, clearing peons frequently and even damaging eventual Assassin Bears, Nyandams etc, that's pretty valuable if you ask me, that's why M. Legs is better as a general shockwave unit.

Also, note the cost efficiency of the 2, before mentioning the damage: (lvl 30)

Legs: 2.09 (it means that, for every cent spent on him, he deals 2.09 DPS only with waves, thet are longer that those of Vigler, while being considerably more spammable)

Vigler: 0.67 (this value is objectively pathetic, not so much for a shockwave unit maybe, but it is still roughly a third of manic legs)

Goemon, for comparison: 3.3

Don't care about cost? Well, when spammed they increase their DPS as follow:

Legs: 43.01  (it means that M. Legs, if spammed, will increase the dps of his waves by 43.01 a second on average, which is already very bad, but...)

Vigler: 29.87 (Even worse)

Goemon, for comparison: 295.12

Wanna consider other variables?

M. legs has an almost instantaneous attack animation, so he'll rarely miss the waves, while Vigler will miss sometimes.

Range difference is only 10, which is almost nothing, still something, but not much.

Vigler only has twice the HP of manic Legs despite being way harder to replace.

Vigler, unlike Legs, relies more on attack power rather than on stacking and attacking frequently, what's better depends by the situation, but not attacking frequently is usually worse, so Legs beats Vigler here too.

In conclusion, there is absolutely no way that Vigler be a better generalist than Manic Legs in any way possible.

Vigler's only redeeming quality is its ability, but only that, so Legs makes this uber obsolete in most cases, even if not true formed.