Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-216.67.118.209-20160331011253/@comment-30255782-20191024151502

At peak realistic potential? No I've been using them at lv30 most of the time, and lower than that if we're talking about earlygame. Yeah, lv50 Jizo can rush through merciless, lv30 can't do that. However, lv30 bomber can beat the stage, not by completely dps steamrolling it with uber boost, but with good non-uber support and a touch of skill.

Try either beating a bunch of black stages without bomber, or a bunch of black stages without Jizo, lmk which way could be more stags. It'll be off because of the boost, but I don't think the results will swap.

Noe were just arguing about entirely different things. My whole point was that ushi outclasses Jizo against pure angels, which was a response to jth. responding to that by saying that there aren't a lot of pure/majority angel stages, and that Jizo is better overall doesn't counter my statement in the first place. Jizo is better overall ofc, but ushi outclasses against the stages that are purely or almost purely angel. It also just so happens that ushi evolved is better than Jizo tf as a generalist. So, in a stage like heavens oasis where the midranger forms are useless, ushi is also way better.

If pizza has np then I'd give it to pizza over the 2 Kasas, but at 3, yea. The till its stacked argument is for stages where they won't be stacked, like f30. Pizza is definitely better on stuff like f30 cuz of dph, cost effectiveness, and wave.

I don't use lv50 stats or upgrade ubers to 40 and above, if you do, neato. However, if you wanna beat a stage before you get done with sol, you'll have to think of how to do it without lv50s. I'd personally prefer to use bomber and beat merciless early on then have to wait for ultramax. Again, think of which it'd be worse to be without. Yep Kasa is better overall, not relevant to the argument, but true.

That's be interesting, although I'd prefer to hear a response for either baby gao not being even almost as good as Jizo, or for Jizo tf being about as good as evolved Gao. Up to you