Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28739144-20191121204017/@comment-30255782-20200103222603

Indeed, that's not the only reason. However, if Ms are viable, usually tanks won't be helpful or will be pretty bad there. Lol how is high dph better for enemies with many kbs, missing is much more likely. Low tba makes missing less of a big deal and can keep those many kb enemies at bay better, so it's better. There are some situations where tba vs dph doesn't matter, like 1kb high hp Frontline enemies, where all that matters is how much dps you deal. But there aren't any situations where low tba is worse besides brollows/puffers ofc.

Compared to ranged tanks his dps is good yeah, not good for a Frontline role, but fine.

Sure, you can lure. The point is that using Babel won't increase octo's survivability and once the octo is dead, everything behind Babel is getting shredded.

Angel's don't shred that hard, the hardest pushing would be gories, but Gammy can deal with them pretty well with his short TBA, and he outranges most everything. There aren't a whole lot of angel rush stages, but he's very solid on them. Anything with sunfish/npa/angel supports on stuff like daboo. As for blacks, I already talked about using him with bomber to hold for a few secs and his short TBA helps with the swarms. He's not cheap, that's true, but rush stages are a large portion of what tanks are used for, and he's considerably cheaper than Babel. Most red and floating stages aren't rush either, but tanks can be uwed on any type of rush stage if they're any good. His damage is good enough to kb the gories and usually the roos, and short TBA helps. Sure he isn't going to completely stop a black onslaught, especially not on gestalt. The point is that he can kb the supports back more consistently than Babel, which improves survivability.