Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-216.67.118.209-20160331011253/@comment-30255782-20191011190758

True, deploy limit usually isn't big deal. It does however matter on long stages where you use several ms, where stacking too many midrangers would mess you up. It's also nice for cotc restrictions. It's not a huge deal but it's still an advantage.

Good thing Gao moves forward slower then, he has 5 kbs and is tanky enough that burrowing isn't a big problem unlike it is for Jizo.

I'd argue that with pizza and bomber you can destroy practically any black stage in the game, especially if you get the freeze combos so one bomber can perma, that'll game end razorback. Jizo is excellent for blacks early on so you can megablitz before you get bomber or anything, but once you have those 2 he isn't necessary for them. Yeah Jizo is excellent for angels, although he is outranged quite a lot so he doesn't carry the entire color.

For relics using jizo/slaps/Gao is a kinds complicated decision, I'd probably bring all of them to a lot of places if I could tbh. Yeah Jizo is excellent for whites, unless ofc he's outranged which isn't uncommon for whites.

All those listed anti aliens kinda succ tbh, seafarer is good, but Gao is definitely still quite valuable for aliens unless outranged. I'd also say that Gao being outranged isn't as big of a problem as Jizo since you can just use the amazing generalist form for itf3 moon and other stuff. Lil flying/cataur are solid. However, one lacks in range and survivability, and the other has single with meh dps for a massive, low hp, and long cooldown. They both have weaknesses so I'd still quite like Gao for them. If you have the baseball Sr tho, then there's an argument.

For red and floating I agree pretty much, Gao is still helpful for them before you get those units and in some situations, but isn't necessary to deal with them.

Actually, baby gao has more durabilty, 6800 at lv30 vs jizos 5100. Even against relics Gao actually still has more durability at 5440 (unless cursed ofc).

Naw Jizo is quite a lot worse for red/floating/alien, Gao stack always has more dps, near double survivability, and the small advantages from recharge. For zombies I'd say Gao has even more of an advantage than for those 3 since he can better deal with burrowing. With jizos small advantage for relics, significant one for whites (tho there aren't a whole lot of whites they outrange), and pretty massive one for angel/black, its a pretty close call.